the messages from the Young People’s Conference in Poland 2011 are online at ageturners.com

the messages from the Young People's Conference in Poland 2011 are online at ageturners.comThis announcement / tip, though not very “important” outwardly or to some, it is so important to many of us who have been following the 2011 Poland Camp and the European Young People’s Conference in Poland series that it needs its own blog post. And that’s right, these messages are online now, ready to be downloaded and listened to! If you want to find out what the Lord speaks today in His move in Europe – to the young people in Europe – you need to listen to these messages!

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All the 10 messages are online and ready to be downloaded – all you need to do is create a free account at AgeTurners.com and log in to visit the Media section. The main topic of the conference in Poland this year was

Crucial Aspects of God’s Economy in The Book of Exodus (1)

and you can read more on this blog from the sharing of young people from UK, USA, Slovakia, Poland, Russia, Holland, etc – and some of their serving ones also! What a rich time, and what a direct and strong speaking from the Lord concerning our living in the world for God’s purpose! Even though “the plan” was to go through the whole outline on this subject, the feeling from the Lord was eventually to go only through half of it, but to emphasize the main matters. We saw what life in the world is – fully under Satan’s usurpation, under his rule, in darkness, with flies and lice, even in death.

But God wants us as His people to come out of Egypt and hold a feast unto Him in the wilderness! He provides a way for us to both be strengthened and to be willing and convinced to come out of the world: He exposes the world before our eyes and gives us Christ as the Passover Lamb that we may eat Him and be saved from Satan’s usurpation! Praise the Lord, now our Christian life is a feasting life - feasting on Christ as the unleavened bread, the bitter herbs, and the roasted lamb of God!

Here are some of the testimonies from the saints and the young people who were there at the conference[read more testimonies via at the 2011 Poland Camp testimonies dedicated page]:

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seeing the world, the life in the world, and the way to escape: HALLELUJAH!!! (2011 Poland Camp)

seeing the world, the life in the world, and the way to escape: HALLELUJAH!!! (2011 Poland Camp)In this year’s Young People’s Conference in Poland I appreciated the brothers pointing out the facts to us – as seen in Exodus. These facts are concerning Egypt (the world system that Satan created), concerning what life in Egypt is like, and how to escape the tyranny and slavery of Egypt.

I was impressed that the world system that Satan created is composed of Babylon, Sodom, and Egypt. In Babylon we are brought into rebellion and idolatry to worship all sorts of things other than God. The world is anything (good or bad) that distracts us from God. In Sodom we are brought into sinfulness. The world is full of the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes that defile our person. Lastly, in Egypt we are brought under the slavery and usurpation of Pharaoh (Satan). In the world our time and our whole being is in the slavery of our livelihood, and our time is usurped to such an extent that we have no time for the Lord or for the church. These are the facts of what the world is.

Equally as impressive were the plagues that were seen in Egypt. These 10 plagues signified life in Egypt, life in the world: It begins with death and ends with death. It begins with somewhat of a mild form of death, that one may brush off as if nothing. But as one remains in the world this death just grows worse and worse – it eventually damages our whole being, especially our soul. Remaining in the world damages us, damages our relationship with one another, and damages our relationship with God. This is just the fact that if we continue to live in the world we will touch death which will lead us to more death. May the Lord have mercy on us that we would flee from the world and all its forms of death.

Praise the Lord for His way of salvation! He has shown us a vision of the world and a vision of what life in the world is like. Also, He has provided us a way to escape the world – this too is not “a hope” or “a theory”, but it is a fact! Christ is the reality of the Passover lamb that was slain for the Israelites in Exodus – His blood was shed for our iniquities. After being slaughtered, the lamb was roasted and eaten by the Israelites. This is the Lord being thoroughly judged, crucified, and resurrected – to become our food and our strength to escape the world. Thus, when He was on the cross, He proclaimed “It is finished!” (John 19:30). All the righteous requirements of God were fulfilled on the cross! Now we are set free to escape Egypt and enjoy God. Hallelujah, this is a fact that we can experience and enjoy today!

We have to give a thousand “Hallelujah’s!” for these facts! We see the world for what it is. We see what life in the world is like. We also see we do not need to remain in the world, but we can escape the world by enjoying the Lord everyday. His blood is shed for our sins. He has been processed to be the Life-Giving Spirit for us to eat everyday, which gives us strength to escape the life in the world. [sharing from the 2011 Poland Camp by brother Jackson L(USA) from his top enjoyment as a serving one in the camp - become a fan of the European Young People's Conference in Poland on Facebook or read other testimonies of the saints who attended this conference - 2011 Poland Camp]

Thank You Lord for these facts. Keep us enjoying You all the days of our life.

when God’s people move, God moves; if God’s people do not move, God has no way to move(2011 Poland camp)

when God's people move, God moves; if God's people do not move, God has no way to move(2011 Poland camp)To start things off, the Poland young people conference is not the only young person conference I have ever been to. I was raised up as a “church-kid”, born and raised under parents who met when they joined the church life. So, I already had a taste of the youthful ecstasy that the Poland conference would give, and the material that such a Poland conference would cover. In fact, the topic of the special fellowship, “The World Situation and God’s Move” was extremely similar to what Brother James shared with the young people during the Vancouver Summer School of Truth a couple years ago.

The main point of both messages ran along the lines of looking away from the world and waiting for the Lord’s coming, which – as the brothers make sure to emphasize – is growing more and is more imminent each year, even each day. But, as I was listening to brother Tom Goetz share with us the history of the Lord’s Recovery of the Holy Bible in the 20th century, I was a little bit astounded with the magnitude and universality of it all. The fact is, the Lord’s Recovery is very real and it has not been easy.

The shoulders upon which you and I stand upon right now have endured many sufferings and turmoil in many regions on which it is active. The Lord’s move on this earth hasn’t been an easy one. Yet people who endure the turmoil and the devastations still persist in the work and in the ministry. One point said that

When God’s people move, God moves; if God’s people do not move, God has no way to move.

Until the week in Poland, I took a lot of comfort in that, if I don’t participate in the Lord’s move, it’s ok – the Lord is still there and I’ll be okay when the Lord comes back. But seeing the European young people in action, in joyous shouting, in their vast and profound enjoyment of the same Christ I took for granted for my entire life – that has given me more of a vision of what the Lord is doing. Just because I live in Seattle and live relatively close to the meeting hall doesn’t mean I’m guaranteed a spot in the frontline of the Lord’s move. No, it’s actually the opposite!

Europe is the forefront of the Lord’s move. Europe, in the consummation of the fulfillment of the vision concerning the great human image in Daniel 2, is more vitally crucial than any other country and race. You can see it in Revelation 17, where the ten kings – typified by the ten toes of the great image in Daniel 2 – will be under Antichrist, who will be the last Caesar of the revived Roman Empire. But we – by overcoming our flesh – can participate in overcoming this Antichrist and bringing the Lord back! This is the Lord’s Recovery – that we may be saturated with Christ and may be the overcomers who welcome the Lord in His second coming.

That is a little bit of the big picture that the brothers keep talking about, the high peak of the divine revelation. I saw this picture when I was in Poland and while I was enjoying the Lord with the saints in the Netherlands. There is something different when you’re surrounded by saints who live in Europe and are longing so much for Christ everyday. In Seattle, one long airplane ride away, I never quite had such a bird’s eye-view of what the Lord was doing on the Earth, not just in America. Only when I was in Poland, in midst of the young people all over Europe, “tasting and seeing” the universal Christ, did I realize that the Lord’s Move is actually happening. The Lord will move on even without me if He has to. He has a purpose and – by the looks of it – He also has the means to carry it out. Praise the Lord for the His move in Europe! [sharing from brother John G(USA) from his top enjoyment in the 2011 Young People's Conference in Poland; become a fan on Facebook for more updates and sharings]

the world situation and God’s move: Lord, make us those who meet Your need, the Nazarites! (2011 Poland camp)

the world situation and God's move: Lord, make us those who meet Your need, the Nazarites! (2011 Poland camp)I have been wanting to go this conference since I was 14(which was 6 years ago). It was a dream come true and I am so thankful that the Lord opened a way for me to go. I was also re-baptized! This year’s topic was the Crucial Aspects of God’s Economy portrayed in Exodus. The Book of Exodus begins negatively –with the children of Israel in a situation of slavery in Egypt under Satan’s usurpation. Actually, this is very much similar to the world which we live in today, except it is much worse today. God wants to cause the children of Israel to hate Egypt through the bringing in of the ten plagues  In the first meeting of the conference, Brother Tom Goetz began by telling the young people,

We’re not here to tell you to leave the world but we would like to present you a picture of how dreadful this world is, and we pray that the Lord could open your eyes to see the real situation of this world.

The conference began with a “depressing message” and, actually, all the messages were like that – not on a very “positive note”. But it was the 10 plagues that the Lord used to show the children of Israel the real situation of Egypt so that they would be disgusted with Egypt. I have never seen the 10 plagues being portrayed in this way. Every plague revealed how evil and unclean this world is. God said to Pharaoh, “let My people go”! and because Pharaoh didn’t want to, He sent forth these plagues.

God hates the world – more than He hates sin. Our love for the world offends His holiness. We need a clear vision of Satan’s tactics in his dealing with God’s people to not let them go. On the third day of the conference we had a special fellowship meeting on, the world situation and God’s move. That message was the strongest and deepest message of all the speaking in this Poland conference. Brother Tom wrote on the board the entire history of the Lord’s recovery and through that he showed us how each time the Lord wants to raise something up, especially things like the Full Time Training, the enemy would come in and attack.

One of the things that impressed me was that he said when the first FTT center was built, it was destroyed immediately the next year in the World War II! Satan raised a world war just to take out the training center! That really opened my eyes. Then later Satan has been using rebellions in the church to try to ruin God’s will. But today Satan changed his strategy – instead of rebellions, he is using the boy-girl relationships among the young people, or very filthy stuff on the internet to contaminate the young people, so that there would not be a group of young people to be rise up and bring the Lord back!

It was such a strong and straightforward word – and in that meeting it was my first time to experience that there’s a battle, a real warfare going on. We just needed so much prayer and grace. After that message, all of the young people were very exposed, and a lot of them went back to the room and cried. But the next day – praise the Lord! – the message was about the Passover – the power of the blood of Christ, which cleanses all sin away. This was the first and only happy message in the whole conference. After that meeting, so many young ones ran up to the mic and shared that

Yesterday after the message I thought this is over, I’ve committed so many sins and I can’t be useful for the Lord … and its just all over. But – wow, thank You Lord for this message! I just found out that His blood saved me! I can still be a useful vessel for the Lord! I can’t wait to go back to my hometown and tell all my friends! I didn’t realized how important I am for the Lord’s recovery! I live in Europe, this is where everything is going to happen – I need to stand for the Lord

It was so wonderful to hear these testimonies! I was very touched…. The Lord really broke through in that message…

At the end of the conference, brother Tom used the term dispensational instrument, which is a person or persons whom God uses to change the age. In every age, God wants to do something, but the question is, is there a man ready? He used the example of Moses, how he was first educated in all the knowledge of Egypt until the age of 40 and he thought he was ready – but the Lord did not use him right then. He took him out to the wilderness, in the middle of nothing for another 40 years. Moses wasn’t really used by the Lord until the age of 80.

This not only just shows that our God is a patient God – He is very particular, He wouldn’t just use anybody: He needs a people who would cooperate with Him and be trained by Him. We concluded the conference by singing the Nazarite song again and again,

When God wants to move,
He must gain an instrument,
Overcomers separated from the current age!
They love not themselves,
But a willing sacrifice…
Make us those who meet Your need, the Nazarites.
Make us those through whom You’d close this age!
Who are one with You to bring the kingdom in:
Young people absolute for Your move.

[sharing from the recent Poland Conference for the Young People by sister Joann W(USA) from her top enjoyment as a young serving ones at the camp; become a fan on Facebook for more updates and sharings]

the Lord always sees us as the overcomers, the age-turners, kings and winners! (2011 Poland camp)

the Lord always sees us as the overcomers, the age-turners, kings and winners! (2011 Poland camp)I was counting down the days left until the conference(which was the 17th time the young people in the Lord’s Recovery in Europe met at the Poland camp), and finally there were no days left! I enjoyed this conference very much: God was really speaking to me every day during this camp!

What touched me was an example about the mousetrap. All the things in the world are so attractive and “smell” so good – just like cheese for a little mouse. Even if we’re Christian, we can still fall into this trap. Each one of us is God’s treasure, so therefore we need to stay away from Satan’s trap. We have a higher goal – to build God’s house!

Sins offends God on the one hand and defiles us on the other. What is guilt? Guilt is the stain of sins on your conscience. When you are young, your conscience is only stained a little. But as you grow older, these stains accumulate. Just like a window which is never washed, the conscience grows darker and darker until eventually very little light can penetrate. No detergent or chemical can wash the stain of guilt from your conscience – our conscience needs the precious blood of Christ!

Sometimes after we sin, we want to run away from God but we have to realize that we should continue to seek Him and pursue Him! When we feel like we’re dying, He is life to us! We can take Him as our shield and know Him as our best protection. Often when we are depressed or feel so bad, we may think we’re stupid. However, the Lord always see us as the overcomers, as age-turners, kings and winners! In every situation we should turn to Him and give the situation to Him. The point is that we have to call upon His name and then He will know what to do and He will help us in every moment.

What touched me as well was that relationships are used by Satan to turn our hearts from God. At first we are like a flower and then when we are in relationship our petals keep coming off and after all we are only like a stalk. Young people, don’t you want to be a wonderful and colorful flower for your wife/husband? First of all we should learn how to love the Lord – we have our golden years to do that (13-19 years) – and then learn how to love our wife or husband.

God must gain an instrument, right? But if we want to be useful to fulfill His plan, we have to put ourselves aside and give our life to the Lord to gain His heart’s desire!

Some of the children of Israel may have been as sinful as the Egyptians. Yet, when God sent His angel to slay all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, He didn’t say “when I see your good behavior I will pass over you” – God didn’t require that the children of Israel would pray, do penance, or promise to behave. God commanded them to slay the Passover lamb and to sprinkle it’s blood on their doorposts. He said, “when I see the blood, I will pass over you” – He never looked to see what kind of people were in the house. Remember: No matter who we are, He will always be our God, and He will always love us with the best love.

Some of the other things that touched me were:

  • God said: “Let MY people go!” This means we belong to Him! Praise the Lord! We’re not Pharaoh’s – we are the Lord’s!
  • We have hard and stubborn hearts – we are like donkeys (“eeehaa”).
  • Satan is a liar and a murderer from the beginning – he wants to make us think that the saints don’t care about us.
  • We need to stand on the truth, and love the Lord with the best love, with the first love – we can’t do anything without Him! He loves us sooo much!
  • I’m so glad to be in the church life! God chose me and loved me long before the world begun! I’m like a V.I.P!
  • The Lord needs young people who will pursue Him, know Him and love Him!
  • 4 points how to keep a pure joy: confessing our sins; eating the word of God; praying; and having a fellowship.

[sharing from sister Noemi S(PL) from her topmost enjoyment in the recent European Young People's conference in Poland - become a fan on Facebook for more updates and sharings]

Lord Jesus We love You, thank You for Your being! Thank You that You love us and You died for us. Without You life is really nothing. Be the First One in our life.

what happens today in the world is NOT normal: we need the Lord to open our eyes!(2011 Poland camp)

Satan wants to blind us that we may lose any sense of morality and shame...(2011 Poland camp)In the recent Poland Camp I was very touched by the message about the crucifixion of Christ. His disciples ran away, and it seems that even the Father has left Him alone… He was surrounded with people who scoffed at Him and mocked Him. Jesus suffered all of it, all this pain. Even though He could have avoided all this, He humbly received it. He redeemed us from our sins with His precious blood. When I am offended and my feelings hurt I recall how much Jesus suffered on the cross and I realize that my pain is nothing compare what He passed through.

Also I was very touched that we can be a Pharaoh to ourselves. Sometimes instead of praying or fellowshipping with the Lord, we waste our time on the computer or watching TV, or we go outside with our friends. We replace Christ with other things. But we shouldn’t do it. The Lord should be the most important for us. He should be number 1 in our life. [sharing from Kristina V(RU) from her top enjoyment in the recent Poland Camp]

What touched me very much was the portion in Genesis 19 about Lot and the two angels. Lot lived in the city of sin – Sodom. When the two angels came to Lot, he was sitting in the gate of Sodom. Then the Bible says that the men of Sodom surrounded the house because they wanted to “know” the two angels… but Lot preferred to give them his two virgin daughters. That shows us that Lot, having dwelt a considerable time in the sinful city of Sodom, had lost his sense of morality and shame. It is the same nowadays – what Satan wants today is to blind us so that we could lose the sense of morality and shame, so that we would not have a fear of God! Satan wants us to dwell in the world so that our conscience will have no function and we would accept worldly things as normal, and then the Lord will be offended. May the Lord show us that everything in the world is not normal but that the world is full darkness and death! We must pray so the Lord can open our eyes! Lot had not willingness to escape from the evil, but God was merciful!!! Praise the Lord that HE can make us go out from the world as He did with Lot!!! [sharing by sister Maria L(BEL) from her topmost enjoyment as a serving one in the recent European Young People's conference in Poland - become a fan on Facebook for more updates and sharings] 

The cry of the Israelites was desperate, the eagerness of God was great, but the growth of Moses was slow(2011 Poland camp)

The cry of the Israelites was desperate, the eagerness of God was great, but the growth of Moses was slow(2011 Poland camp)Though I must admit there were many things that touched me deeply during the conference time in Poland, it was these words that took root in my mind and caused the Lord to finally win in wrenching open my stubborn heart. They are simple enough, right?

The cry of the Israelites was desperate and the eagerness of God was great, but the growth of Moses was slow.

In a conference centered on the first few chapters of the book of Exodus – chapters where all the things of the world are made to lie bare and naked before our sight so that we can see them for what they really are – these words actually seem in a sense, tame. Don’t you think? However, they are what the entire story of Exodus hinges upon, actually they are the crux of the history of the children of Israel.

“How can this be?” you may be asking yourself… Well, let me tell you a story – a story of a man named Abram. Abram was this rather normal fella living in an idolatrous city on the other side of the big River. One day, God appeared to him and made him a promise. Leave this place, cross the river and I will give you and your descendants all the land that is before your eyes. So Abram, now called Abraham, believed this God who appeared to him, and actually they became really good friends, despite Abraham’s sometimes dragging his feet and other times being a little too anxious to get things done. Time passed, generations were born and generations died, and things happened: all matter of situations and things – but God had not fulfilled His promise to Abraham, though it was reconfirmed time and time again. Rather, instead of things working out toward the fulfillment of this great promise, it seemed that the opposite had happened…

The children of Israel were under great duress in the clutches of one of the most beautiful, grand, topmost civilizations the world has ever seen, even to this day. And from this situation of slavery, their desperate cry for God – not only to deliver them from bondage but also to fulfill His promise – ascended to the heavens. Now imagine, let’s say you are this all-mighty, all powerful One and your people, those whom you love, whom you treasure as a unique and peculiar treasure, who are more dear to you than the apple of your eye cry out for you to do what you have promised. Do you not think that this would touch your heart? Move your hand? Yes! God’s eagerness was GREAT. This was the grand opportunity for Him to come in and not only expose the situation of life in the world, but also to free His people into the promised good land.

The fulfilling of this promise however rested on the shoulders of a few lowly females. First, some Hebrew midwives. Second a daughter of Levi and her daughter. And third, the daughter of Pharaoh. Because they cooperated with God, He was able to raise and prepare a called one – Moses, the one through whom God was able to fulfill His promise to His people.

Well, that’s the story. Now, you may say, “yeah, ok. That’s all fine and dandy, but what does this have to do with me?” Well, though God did free the children of Israel from their slavery in Egypt, though God did make of them a great nation and for a time did give them the promised land, there was something more hidden deep in the heart of God. Something that now in these last of days has been revealed to us in spirit. God is building up a group of people into a mutual abode, into a dwelling place for mutual rest. He is building up a group of people into a corporate warrior to fight against His enemy and to be His expression and representation on this earth. He is building up a group of people into His corporate Bride, His wife for full satisfaction in love.

This is what He has been searching for since eternity past. This is why we as human beings were created. It is for the fulfilling of this purpose that the people of God have been clamoring desperately for hundreds, even thousands of years. The cry of the people of God is desperate, God’s eagerness for His Bride is great, but where is this corporate Moses? Where is the one who has been prepared humanly to plunder the wealth of the Egyptians for God’s purpose? Where is the one who is willing to suffer the ill-treatment of the people of God, the one who considers the reproach of Christ greater than the riches of Egypt(Heb. 11:26)?

I will tell you where. They are here, this young generation, our second generation, in the throes of a crooked, perverted, evil, densely dark atmosphere on this continent of Europe. I will not minimize the struggles and hardships that we face as American young people, in some ways the cloying over-abundance not only in material matters but in spiritual matters as well pose its own difficulties and challenges that need to be overcome. But in some ways, it’s almost like some of those plagues we saw that came upon the Egyptians, frogs, locust, flies. They are irksome, they hinder our daily going on, and eat away at our life supply, but they cannot compare to the dense darkness that came upon the entire inhabited land. A darkness so dense and so full that it brought all life to a complete and total standstill. There was no sign of life anywhere. There was nothing.

Saints, what I was touched with was not these specific plagues or our need to leave Egypt, nor even our need to grow. Please note: all of these are very important, and yes, we need them. But what impressed me to the core of my being was the need for “a few lowly females.” Not in the literal sense, but in type. A number of people willing to OPEN – yes, open to the Lord so that they would cooperate with Him to bring forth this corporate Moses.

On my way to the Poland camp I happened to listen to a message on Ephesians 3, regarding Christ making His home in the believers’ hearts. Our brother sharing said something that thrust a spear through my being: we cannot remain superficial, shallow Christians. We cannot remain in our self, untouched by the Lord, still in our self, still in our offenses. Who will allow Him to come into these specific areas of the heart and make His home there, set up shop there? Who will be willing to give Him the space, the room to come into THAT part of their being? To whom can the Lord turn to and trust with His innermost desire? We have hindered Him long enough. OH LORD! At the Poland camp I happened to attend the time with the families and I heard a similar word: We offer the Lord our cooperation by opening to Him, opening every part, and even more specific parts of our being so that He can do in us and with us as He pleases.

So, the camp is over… And within there is only this:

Lord, I have seen Your purpose.
Lord, I have seen the need.
Lord, inside me there are no words, just a great weight, a burden to which I cannot but respond.
Lord, I respond by saying, Amen. Amen, yes, Lord make Your home in THAT part of my heart.
Lord, I respond by telling You that I cannot, but I believe in You as Jehovah, the Great I AM, the One who fulfills what He has promised.
Do it, Lord. Do it in and through and by us. Why not? Lord. Why not here? Why not now? Why not us?
Our cry to You is desperate. Your eagerness is great. Lord, cause us to open, that we may grow unto full maturity. For the preparation of Your bride and the fulfillment of Your eternal purpose.

[sharing by sister Maria C(USA/SP) from her topmost enjoyment as a serving one in the recent European Young People's conference in Poland - become a fan on Facebook for more updates and sharings]